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Rate Presidential Dads
FamilyHost_Tom - July 03, 2009
What kind of dads were the last four Presidents. Let's rate them 1-4 with one being the best and four being the least. No criticism is intended, all were good dads, but who do you think for the best. The past four Presidents are Barak Obama, George W Bush, Bill Clinton, George H.W. Bush. Let's hear your thoughts.
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BroncosDad - July 03, 2009
OK, here are my picks and thoughts.
1. George H.W. Bush...son as Pres, son as Gov of FL...all his kids are successful, and
you see them often in the press spending time together as family.
2. Barak Obama and George W Bush...Tied...I think both are good dads, haven't seen
enough of Obama to make a true determination. George W. seemed like a good dad
4. Bill Clinton...I think he loves Chelsea, and he wasn't horrible...but he set a poor
example in relationship with Hillary and indiscretion with Monica..those things hurt
kids.
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AnnabelleMcB - July 08, 2009

The problem I have with both Obama and Clinton is that they put their own career ambitions ahead of the welfare of their children. I don't understand how good fathers could subject their children to the fishbowl that is the White House.

Even though Jenna and Barbara were in college when George W. Bush was elected, they were at least legal adults and could make their own decisions. I have more respect for him and his father for waiting until their children were grown adults to enter Presidential politics.


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FamilyHost_Tom - July 09, 2009
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  The problem I have with both Obama and Clinton is that they put their own career ambitions ahead of the welfare of their children. I don't understand how good fathers could subject their children to the fishbowl that is the White House. Even though Jenna and Barbara were in college when George W. Bush was elected, they were at least legal adults and could make their own decisions. I have more respect for him and his father for waiting until their children were grown adults to enter Presidential politics.  
By AnnabelleMcB
Thanks for that insight, and pointing out that fact. I remember when Colin Powell was a shoe in for the nomination but rejected it because he didn't think his wife was up for the campaign.
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FamilyHost_Tom - July 10, 2009
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  The problem I have with both Obama and Clinton is that they put their own career ambitions ahead of the welfare of their children. I don't understand how good fathers could subject their children to the fishbowl that is the White House. Even though Jenna and Barbara were in college when George W. Bush was elected, they were at least legal adults and could make their own decisions. I have more respect for him and his father for waiting until their children were grown adults to enter Presidential politics.  
By AnnabelleMcB
You raise an interesting question. What is the proper balance between career goals and family goals? Can we assume that anyone who is elected President has elevated career over family? Does that principle hold true in other careers? Could the president of a bank or the CEO of a corporation possibly achieve their goals and also be a good father? Lets talk about that.
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JimDadOfTwo - July 11, 2009
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  You raise an interesting question. What is the proper balance between career goals and family goals? Can we assume that anyone who is elected President has elevated career over family? Does that principle hold true in other careers? Could the president of a bank or the CEO of a corporation possibly achieve their goals and also be a good father? Lets talk about that.  
By FamilyHost_Tom

I think it depends on you define a good father. I think it's a man who takes an active role in his children's lives. He makes sure that he's a physical presence as much as possible (men like military members obviously have a harder struggle with that) and that he makes sure they know he wants to be involved.

I guess I'm skeptical of men that take on 60, 80, 100 hour work weeks. At what point does an enormous salary fail to make up for the time you're missing with your own kids?


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FamilyHost_Tom - July 13, 2009
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  I think it depends on you define a good father. I think it's a man who takes an active role in his children's lives. He makes sure that he's a physical presence as much as possible (men like military members obviously have a harder struggle with that) and that he makes sure they know he wants to be involved. I guess I'm skeptical of men that take on 60, 80, 100 hour work weeks. At what point does an enormous salary fail to make up for the time you're missing with your own kids?  
By JimDadOfTwo
Your question is rhetorical, in my view. Salary can never fill in the voids that exist when fathers choose career over children. I think its interesting that most of the men I've heard talking about this are older guys who have already raised their kids. I look at their lives and don't think they put career first. But there does seem to be a bit of regret for times they missed out on their kids activities.
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